Saturday, July 7, 2007

Browser support

I´ve been analyzing the hits on this blog and I´ve a bad new for some of our visitors: IE (Internet Explorer) 6 sucks. Badly.
Such a fact leaded us to decide to not support IE 6 on RubySoccer. In practice, this means that we don´t have a clue on how IE would behave on many of our screens. So for those among you that are not yet in contact with the wonderful world of mozilla, here is a link that may be scary, but I suggest you click on it for your own sake:

FireFox official page

17 comments:

Anonymous said...

what about Opera?

Anonymous said...

First of all, i'd like to thank all the 3 of you for the hard work in putting a "soccersim-like" game together.

Secondly, i want to wish the best of luck on the developments, you guys remember the main issues people kept complaining about in the bugs/suggestion forums, and hopefully we won't have to see them again. :)

I read down there that country status will be dynamic, which is a good thing, but i also read that ticket prices will be the same all over the world. It might not be a bad thing, assuming that the stadiums won't be full all the time... but if we have a 30k stadium with 5k average watching the matches, people will complain that they can't bring the prices down, if you know what i mean. Probably the best thing would be custom prices and varying audience according to price, your position and match form. I.e, asking for 10/ticket would get your stadium full even if you were midtable, if you had won the past 3-4 matches. Or if you had 0 losses over the past 6, something like that. If things weren't running smoothly, put the tickets at 6-7 and you'd see a raise in the audience. Of course, playing against the top 3 or 4 placed in the league, you could ask for 10, people pay to watch big matches. Also, the number of supporters in your stadium could have a tiny influence (5% maybe) on how good your team did.

Another huge issue (but this one probably tougher to handle) was the excess of money on the game. Agent fee corrected it for the initial 10-15 seasons, but after that it became just like FT and C1. There has to be more place to spend money than just players and wages. And something meaningful, not stuff like youth academy investment.
I always liked the idea of a season budget given by the board at the beginning, and revised at half of the season. That could prevent the incredible amounts of money people had to spend on players. Part of the remaining money on each season could be divided by shareholders, FM-like.

Oh, a window transfer would be good also, allowing you to negotiate whenever you wanted, but only letting players switch teams when those windows were open. It could be made only to players with 20 years old or above, to allow anyone to join the game and get a bunch of kids to develop.

I'm not even sure if you guys needed any suggestion, or if maybe you did but just not yet. Anyway, i felt like sharing my thoughts, hope they can be somehow valuable.

Thanks for your time,
RC

Unknown said...

Thaks a lot for your suggestions, Ricardo! I really liked the custom ticket price ideia!

Economy is really an issue, it's hard to find a good way to balance. We'll discuss your suggestion regarding season budget, but it is not likely that the first beta version uses it.

About the transfer window I'm not particularly fond of this ideia, but hey, I'm not the only developer :-)

Keep the suggestions coming, and thanks again!

Gabriel Cesario

Unknown said...

Felippe, we haven't tested it on Opera yet. We'll let you know when we do.

Gabriel Cesario.

festas33 said...

GREAT! I just found you guys!

im counting on you to have one more great game after the SS death.


i'll be for sure one of the players!


i'll check this out every once in a while to know when this thing goes online!

cheers!

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your reply, Gabriel. :)

I'm well aware that the economy issues are one of the (if not THE) hardest to solve, was just throwing some ideas. After all, there's nothing better to know what might go wrong than testing the game. ;)

Cheers.

festas33 said...

gabriel i know it is very soon, but when can we test the game? When to you predict to have a beta version? Im sorry to ask, i know you are working hard and probably it is not your bigger concern right now. Perhaps you have better and more important things to do, but im so glad i'll play ss again, and improved!


cheers and thanks for your hard work!

Unknown said...

My plan is to have the game online next month. Talking with Danilo we agreed it is a close deadline even for the beta, but I'm confident we can make it as things are coming up in a good pace. All your support also help us in trying to make it available as soon as possible.

festas33 said...

I love you gcesario!

looking forward to play it soon then :D

elciok said...

Back off alexandre. gcesario is engaged (not to me though).

elciok said...

why it looks bad in IE? Isn't web-based? Are you guys using javascript/dhtml/ajax, those kind of things? I think you could postpone the IE compabillity development, but there are just too much IE users to ignore that issue. I don't know why I'm posting this since I'm not even considering playing the game, lol

danilo said...

yes, we are using ajax/dhtml/javascript. that is the big problem. And I guess we will be one more anti-IE site on the web then. Maybe IE 7 will work, who knows?

Unknown said...

Elcio,

Firefox is available for everyone to download in most common platforms for free, so this should't be a problem for now.

You should consider playing the game, it will be great!

p.s. For those who don't know, Elcio, Danilo and I graduated in the same college, that's why he comes here to make jokes instead of helping us develop the game :-)

Fernando França said...

Opera is a web standards compliant browser, so its most likely the game will work on Opera 7+.

I was talking to Danilo about having a face-lift done by my design team when they finish Ruby Soccer. Gameplay comes first tough, good luck buddies :)

PS: Danilo, give my DVDs back you thief!

Anonymous said...

Hi guys,

I use IE and doubt ill ever change, How can I trust 3rd party web browser to view my bank details????

anyway ill just play this game in IE and put up with it.

Regards,

danilo said...

Hi leehamo,

Well, the people from my area (computer science) usually build up the reverse phrase:
'How can I trust IE for my bank transactions? I just use firefox.'

You will mainly have alignment problems and, also, the drag and drop screen will not work 100%. Still, with patience you will be able to play. Eventually IE 7 will work fine (we hope), so if you update your browser you should be ok.

Unknown said...

leehamo, you could use Firefox just to play the game and keep using IE for everything else, what do you think?